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Experience RTX 2070 Super: Nvidia makes us feel "bad" when buying RTX 2080 and 2070


What does the Nvidia RTX Super – Super word mean here? Many brothers guessed that it was super strong, many people guessed it was super cheap, some superman . Please read the following lesson about GeForce RTX 2070 Super to see what Super is.

Still the performance tests and more information for you about GPU architecture as well as changes compared to previous versions. This time there was a change in the number of tests that I tested all of my graphics cards to ensure a more accurate number with new hardware and new Nvidia drivers, which brought you A more realistic view of performance. This is a very important factor affecting your shopping decision so I pay attention from the beginning.

What's new in GeForce RTX Super?

Nvidia announced three versions including RTX 2080 Super, RTX 2070 Super and RTX 2060 Super. On the selling price, the RTX 2070 Super is priced at US $ 499, the same price as RTX 2070, RTX 2080 Super still holds a starting price of US $ 699 while the RTX 2060 Super version is 50 USD more expensive than the RTX 2060 version Super.



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Is RTX 2070 Super affordable for RTX 2070? The real RTX 2070 is really a variation of RTX 2080 instead of improvements from RTX 2070.

The most fundamental difference between RTX 2070 Super and RTX 2070 is similar to that between RTX 2070 Super and RTX 2080: RTX 2070 Super and RTX 2080 both use TU104 GPU while RTX 2070 uses TU106 GPU, RTX 2060 series Super and 2060 both use TU106 and what makes them different in performance is the difference in CUDA multiplier, Ray Tracing (RT) multiplier, Tensor multiplier, clock rate as well as VRAM memory setting.

In the above table you can see that RTX 2070 Super with GPU TU104 are in the same group as RTX 2080 Super and RTX 2080. However, it should be noted that TU104 on RTX 2070 Super is a variant with TU104-410-A1 while on RTX 2080 is TU104-400A-A1 and RTX 2080 Super is TU104-450A-A1. These codes, you don't need to remember what to do, just know so that when you ask it, you will cut the wind :). Retrieved as a variant of the TU104 and looking at the diagram below, you can see that Nvidia has turned off a GPC (Graphics Processing Cluster) instead of 6 like on RTX 2080 and 5 GPC.



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Have you ever wondered how the CUDA multiplier on Nvidia's GPU is calculated? Starting from the GPC as I mentioned above, 1 GPC will have 8 SM (Streaming Multiprocessor), this SM is equivalent to the CU (Compute Unit according to AMD's call) to become 5 GPC, TU104 on RTX 2070 Super with 5 x 8 = 40 SM. With the name Multiprocessor, you can imagine that inside each SM, there will be many processing components such as a Ray Tracing processor (RT Core), 64 CUDA processing cores, 8 Tensor cores, 4 texture processing units. (TU). Therefore, you just need to get 40 individuals with each component to get the parameters of TU104 on RTX 2070 Super such as 40 core RT, 2560 core CUDA, 320 core Tensor and 160 TU.

Now looking back at the table, the RTX 2070 Super has a set of processor cores not as much as the RTX 2080 or RTX 2080 Super, but compared to the RTX 2070, the number is higher than that, in addition to the pulse of RTX. The 2070 Super is basically 1605 MHz, over 200 MHz compared to RTX 2070 and the dark pulse Boost here is 1733 MHz this is the reference pulse level and in fact will be even higher than you'll see in the test section power. The rest of TU104 on RTX 2070 Super is no different from RTX 2070 as well as RTX 2080 with 8 GB of GDDR6 memory running at an effective pulse of 1750 MHz for 448 GB / s bandwidth.



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So RTX 2070 Super now with TU104 will be able to talk on par with RTX 2080 like adults and RTX 2070 suddenly become a child no less and no less. Nvidia hasn't mentioned much about the RTX 2070 since its launch and can now understand its fate, the RTX 2070 will be replaced by the RTX 2060 Super and RTX 2070 Super will lie between RTX 2080 and RTX 2060 Super more worthy.



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In addition, RTX 2070 Super has NVLink bridges that allow multiple GPUs to be set up – something that RTX 2070 does not have and has made users angry because it costs $ 499 but cannot run multiple GPUs like GTX 1070 or GTX 1070 Ti.

RTX 2070 Super = RTX 2080?



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As mentioned at the beginning of this article, this time I tested many lines of cards on the system because of some minor changes in the board as well as RAM. In addition to the previous titles, the RTX 20 series without Super series was still not fully updated with Ray Tracing and DLSS features. This time, both drivers and games have been updated more optimally.

  • CPU: Intel Core i9-9900K 8 core 16 threads, running 5 GHz whole;
  • MOBO: Gigabyte AORUS Z390 Pro Wi-Fi;
  • RAM: K.Kill SniperX DDR4-3600 CL19 8 GB x2;
  • SSD (OS + Tool): WD Black PCIe NVMe 256 GB SSD;
  • HDD (Game): WD Black 2 TB;
  • Cooler: Raijintek Orcus 360 RBW;
  • Thermaltake ToughPower Grand RGB 850 W 80 Plus Gold;
  • OS: Windows 10 1903.

3DMark has just updated its own test tools for Ray Tracing and DLSS features so I will split this test into 3 groups. The first test is to test the performance of DirectX 11 and DirectX 12 graphics without Ray Tracing or DLSS. As a result, there will be more cards from this group to new and old ones, including AMD series Radeon RX 5700 XT, RX Vega 64 or RX 570 duo, which are running CrossFireX.

The RTX 2080 Ti is still at the top of the list, and this is still Nvidia's most powerful graphics card in the mainstream, although its price is not universal at all. : D. However, RTX 2080's No. 2 position started to wobble, you can see closely behind is RTX 2070 Super with the difference in score not too big for each test. For example, Fire Strike (FHD, DirectX 11), the difference between the two cards is only about 200 points, similar to higher resolutions such as Fire Strike Ultra (2K, DirectX 11) and Fire Strike Extreme ( 4K, DirectX 11), the difference is from 500 to 600 points. I don't have a Super 2070 to test but with what 2070 Super is showing, you can imagine it has close performance with RTX 2080. Compared to the Pascal series GTX 10 series, RTX 2070 Super is still quite far behind the GTX 1080 Ti but in fact is much more powerful than the GTX 1080. So basically what Nvidia claims is accurate.

What if compared to the red team's latest AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT? With Fire Strike tests that simulate DirectX 11 game titles (which DX11 game you play or so many of them, for example, PUBG, Ghost Recond Wildlands, Assassin's Creed Unity, Syndicate, Fallout 4, …) The Radeon RX 5700 XT outperforms the RTX 2070 Super but with Time Spy tests simulating DirectX 12 titles (some of the best names are Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, FIFA 19, Metro Exodus, Quantum Break, Resident Evil 2 (2019), The Division 2, Battlefield V, Shadow of the Tomb Raider …), the RTX 2070 Super is showing better performance than the Radeon RX 5700 XT. This I mentioned in the RX 5700 XT review a few days ago.

The above is the result of measuring the frame rate (fps) of DirectX 11 titles like PUBG and Ghost Recond Wildlands. With PUBG, the RTX 2070 Super achieved an average frame rate at 160 fps with Ultra graphics settings, FHD resolution and over 100 fps with Ultra graphics settings, 2K resolution. So if you are using screens with 120 Hz – 144 Hz, FHD resolution, you can confidently turn on the V-Sync frame to get a smoother gaming experience. If G-Sync is supported, be sure to turn on PUBG and in 4K, I think the frame that RTX 2070 Super can achieve is 60 fps. I don't have 4K screen for testing so I can only estimate it. Similar to the game Ghost Recon Wildlands – a configurable game swallowing and can say inherited the "heavy" characteristic of Ghost Recon line is at 2K, RTX 2070 Super can only pull nearly 60 fps.

Continue with 3DMark but this time I tested Port Royal separately – a test on the performance of handling Ray Tracing and DLSS test at 2K resolution to check the frame on and not enable DLSS when playing games. The result is not unexpected because RTX 2070 Super has less RT core and less Tensor core than RTX 2080. Human RT handles Ray Tracing and Tensor core is responsible for processing machine learning tasks, typically DLSS technology. (Deep Learning Supersampling) ie anti-aliasing by machine learning technology.



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I used to test games like Battlefield V and Metro Exodus on and off DLSS with Ray Tracing and the results always show that if you turn off DLSS, the frame rate of the game is always significantly lower with Ray Tracing being turn on. So if you play games that support both Ray Tracing and DLSS, turn on both at the same time to get a higher frame rate, these two technologies often come together on DirectX 12 titles. new.



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Same game scene, aerial photo Ray Tracing, bottom image with Ray Tracing.

From the above benchmark results, I test with the actual game to show you if you enable Ray Tracing and DLSS and turn off Ray Tracing and DLSS, how the performance of RTX 2070 Super. To measure the average frame rate of two games Battlefield V and Metro Exodus, I tested the graphics card versions with the same game scene and easy to use MSI Afterburner (there is a game scene played dozens of times, each times a different setting to bring the most accurate number : D).

With Battlefield V, RTX 2070 Super with Ray Tracing and DLSS turned on, the frame rate when playing in Ultra graphics, 2K resolution was a little lower than RTX 2080, but in FHD it was a few frames higher. If Ray Tracing and DLSS are turned off, the performance of RTX 2070 Super is still on par with RTX 2080 and much higher than GTX 1080. Metro Exodus gives the same results when turning on Ray Tracing + DLSS and turning off these two features at degrees 2K, FHD and Ultra graphics.

Shadow of the Tomb Raider, this game has been updated with full Ray Tracing and DLSS, so I have to test again and update in previous reviews. Now when you go to the Settings section of the game, there will be an RT + DLSS toggle button instead of turning on the defaults and part support like the previous version I tested on the RTX 20 series without Super. You can see the frame rate of the RTX 2070 Super when turning on Ray Tracing and DLSS which are over 90 fps with Highest graphics, 2K resolution and over 120 fps with FHD resolution. Interestingly, if you turn off Ray Tracing and DLSS, the frame rate should be higher, but with this game, turn it up, the frame is higher, as evidenced by the fact that when turned off, RTX 2070 Super hit 86 again. fps at 2K and 115 fps in FHD, so with this difference, you should turn on Ray Tracing and DLSS for fun.



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But in short, for what RTX 2070 Super is showing, I honestly asked for condolences for RTX 2080 because its performance was caught up by RTX 2070 Super. So the high possibility that Nvidia will always kill the RTX 2080 series will be replaced by RTX 2080 Super and RTX 2070 was obviously replaced by RTX 2070 Super and its performance was also usurped by RTX 2060 Super. Since then the RTX 20 series will have the strongest RTX 2080 Ti, followed by RTX 2080 Super, RTX 2070 Super, RTX 2060 Super and RTX 2060. The two guys who are excluded from the game are RTX 2080 and RTX 2070.

What about electric temperature and temperature?



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I used Furmark to stress test and RTX 2070 Super result with the same heat dissipation as RTX 2080 and TU104 GPU with fewer cores still keep the temperature no more than 72 degrees C. Actually when playing games and testing stress test with 3DMark Time Spy, the maximum temperature does not exceed 75 degrees Celsius. Nvidia basically limits Power and Temp to keep TU104 stable performance on RTX 2070 Super. In addition, the power consumption of the RTX 2070 Super is 5 – 6 W lower than the RTX 2080 when stress test as well as the game, so I think this time with the RTX 2070 Super, the performance / power of It is more optimized than the RTX 2080. While the RTX 2070 Super gaming pulse can be maintained at a very high level of 1890 MHz, far higher than the Nvidia's Boost boost of 1770 MHz. Even in some situations, RTX 2070 Super still reaches around 1910 MHz but does not last long. So I think the custom versions of RTX 2070 Super will be even more delicious because the ceiling heat follows the TDP of RTX 2070 Super to 215 W and there is still room for OC firms with better thermal solution, even water radiator.

From what I have experienced, I can only say that the GeForce RTX 2070 Super costs $ 499 starting while RTX 2070 Founders Edition has a starting price of $ 599 and RTX 2080 Founders Edition costs $ 799. but you are using RTX 2070 and RTX 2080, both were defeated by RTX 2070 Super. This price makes Nvidia's graphics card worth buying in the mid-high end segment alongside the mid-range RTX 2060/2060 Super. If you notice, the AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT originally announced the price of $ 499 just like RTX 2070 Super but soon after Nvidia announced an RTX Super then AMD immediately lowered the price to $ 50 to make the RX 5700 XT competitive. with RTX 2070 Super. I like both the RX 5700 XT and the RTX 2070 Super but if it's only about 1 million VND, I will choose RTX 2070 Super.

Currently some custom cards have appeared and The price of RTX 2070 Super falls in the range of 15 million for the cheapest and the highest under 18 million. Meanwhile, the RTX 2070 does not have Super in the same price range and RTX 2080 costs over 20 million. Speaking of which, you know that if you go to the blue side, then choose which line and then hen : D



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